What do you guys notice about the relationship between Walter and Phyllis. Discuss specific scenes in your posts as well as your opinions about their relationship.
Walter and Phyllis have a very strange relationship because they got together extremely fast and are plotting the murder of Phyllis’ husband. Also, they have so much of a connection it looks like it is fake, that they are just in the moment. It doesn’t seem like they love each other at all, sure they might have strong feelings for one another but it isn’t love. They seem a little too much into the moment and aren’t thinking about the long run. It doesn’t seem like they could have a future together. I could understand having just an affair because it seems like it’s all passion and lust but nothing else. Not something that would make you not want to be with your husband.
Walter and Phyllis have a very strange relationship because they got together extremely fast and are plotting the murder of Phyllis’ husband. Also, they have so much of a connection it looks like it is fake, that they are just in the moment. It doesn’t seem like they love each other at all, sure they might have strong feelings for one another but it isn’t love. They seem a little too much into the moment and aren’t thinking about the long run. It doesn’t seem like they could have a future together. I could understand having just an affair because it seems like it’s all passion and lust but nothing else. Not something that would make you not want to be with your husband.
When Phyllis came to "drop off his hat" it was strange that she would say that considering that it was very obvious that she didn't have it. I think that it was a little strange that she would lie when it was so clear that both of them knew it wasn't true. It puts the idea that Phyllis is up to something and being sneaky,coming up with excuses that are obviously not true. It also seems like it may be a foreshadowing of the future with her lying to him not only about having his hat but something much bigger. -Olivia M.
Walter and Phyllis have a degrading relationship as the movie carries on. Since they fell in love so quickly and due to the circumstances of their relationship they could not spend time together. It appears that they love each other until the situation escalates. While Keyes’s hunch grows, we begin to view as tensions rise. Walter confronts Phyllis about giving up and she refuses. At this point Walter along with the viewers discover that there is something wrong with Phyllis. We later discover as he talks to Lola that Phyllis is deceiving. The situation then escalates to a climax where all feelings end in the scene where they meet at Phyllis’s house and she has the gun ready. Overall, there is the theme of a quick start and a slow degradation between Walter and Phyllis’s relationship.
I think Walter and Phyllis have a unique relationship that makes you wonder a lot. Right at the beginning of the movie they fell in love even though they knew eachother for only a few days. The way they talked to each other throughout the movie changes a lot. In beginning he called her baby and kept kissing her, and after they killed her husband she sort of became the one powering Walter. Which we then find out that from Lola that Phyllis is not what he thinks she is and things start to change quickly for Walter, but we still wonder if Phyllis even loved him from the beginning.
Although I'm slightly unsure of how Walter felt about Phyllis, it was very clear that Phyllis never really loved Walter and that much was evident when I realized that every time she and Walter would finish a conversation regarding their plans she would make sure that she said that she loved him. This seemed like a technique to try and convince Walter that she really loved him by always saying it and therefore constantly reminding him that she did so that he wouldn't think otherwise. She knew from the way that he was acting when they first met that he was very interested in her and that she could easily trick him into doing her "dirty work", so to speak, by giving him what he had wanted from the start. I also don't think that she fell in love with him in that last scene, instead I think that once she realized that the first shot she fired didn't kill him, she panicked when he turned around and then told him that she suddenly fell in love with him in the moment that she shot him just because she knew he would kill her and she didn't want to die.
Walter and Phyllis have a very strange relationship because they got together extremely fast and are plotting the murder of Phyllis’ husband. Also, they have so much of a connection it looks like it is fake, that they are just in the moment. It doesn’t seem like they love each other at all, sure they might have strong feelings for one another but it isn’t love. They seem a little too much into the moment and aren’t thinking about the long run. It doesn’t seem like they could have a future together. I could understand having just an affair because it seems like it’s all passion and lust but nothing else. Not something that would make you not want to be with your husband.
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Walter and Phyllis have a very strange relationship because they got together extremely fast and are plotting the murder of Phyllis’ husband. Also, they have so much of a connection it looks like it is fake, that they are just in the moment. It doesn’t seem like they love each other at all, sure they might have strong feelings for one another but it isn’t love. They seem a little too much into the moment and aren’t thinking about the long run. It doesn’t seem like they could have a future together. I could understand having just an affair because it seems like it’s all passion and lust but nothing else. Not something that would make you not want to be with your husband.
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Some good points Shelby. Anyone notice anything strange about Phllis going over to return his hat?
ReplyDeleteWhen Phyllis came to "drop off his hat" it was strange that she would say that considering that it was very obvious that she didn't have it. I think that it was a little strange that she would lie when it was so clear that both of them knew it wasn't true. It puts the idea that Phyllis is up to something and being sneaky,coming up with excuses that are obviously not true. It also seems like it may be a foreshadowing of the future with her lying to him not only about having his hat but something much bigger.
Delete-Olivia M.
Walter and Phyllis have a degrading relationship as the movie carries on. Since they fell in love so quickly and due to the circumstances of their relationship they could not spend time together. It appears that they love each other until the situation escalates. While Keyes’s hunch grows, we begin to view as tensions rise. Walter confronts Phyllis about giving up and she refuses. At this point Walter along with the viewers discover that there is something wrong with Phyllis. We later discover as he talks to Lola that Phyllis is deceiving. The situation then escalates to a climax where all feelings end in the scene where they meet at Phyllis’s house and she has the gun ready. Overall, there is the theme of a quick start and a slow degradation between Walter and Phyllis’s relationship.
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I think Walter and Phyllis have a unique relationship that makes you wonder a lot. Right at the beginning of the movie they fell in love even though they knew eachother for only a few days. The way they talked to each other throughout the movie changes a lot. In beginning he called her baby and kept kissing her, and after they killed her husband she sort of became the one powering Walter. Which we then find out that from Lola that Phyllis is not what he thinks she is and things start to change quickly for Walter, but we still wonder if Phyllis even loved him from the beginning.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'm slightly unsure of how Walter felt about Phyllis, it was very clear that Phyllis never really loved Walter and that much was evident when I realized that every time she and Walter would finish a conversation regarding their plans she would make sure that she said that she loved him. This seemed like a technique to try and convince Walter that she really loved him by always saying it and therefore constantly reminding him that she did so that he wouldn't think otherwise. She knew from the way that he was acting when they first met that he was very interested in her and that she could easily trick him into doing her "dirty work", so to speak, by giving him what he had wanted from the start. I also don't think that she fell in love with him in that last scene, instead I think that once she realized that the first shot she fired didn't kill him, she panicked when he turned around and then told him that she suddenly fell in love with him in the moment that she shot him just because she knew he would kill her and she didn't want to die.
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